Harold Rice research sent (eventually) to me...:
"I think the Scroggins, Rices, Tarrants and Ransoms moved together from Virginia to Rutherford County, North Carolina, to Greenville and Pendleton District South Carolina to Green, Franklin and Juniper Counties, Georgia, then spread out to Franklin County, Tennesse, and to Gallatin County, Illinois. I think the Mt. Airy people could have been ours. Mt. Airy is in Sequatchie County, Tennessee, some of which had been Marion County, which is next to Franklin County, Tennessee.
I found an Ephraim Reese in 1790 in Spartanburg County, South Carolina, and there is an Ephraim Rice in Marion County, Tennessee, in 1840, in the Pendleton Distict of South Carolina. On its list is Tarrants.
The 1790 census of South Carolina 96th District, Greenville County lists Humphrey Scroggins, David Reese, Benjamin Tarrant and John Rice.
The 1782 Henry County, Virginia, Military records lists the following in S. Tarrant Company: Humphrey Scroggins, Thomas Scroggins, John Farris and Joseph Rice. Oglethorpe Company, Georgia, 1794-1800: Phillip Scroggins, Thomas Rice, Humphrey Scroggins.
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Showing posts with label Rice Family. Show all posts
27 July 2023
19 September 2021
Estate Of William Rice
Illinois Probate Records, Gallatin Probate records 1863-1867 vol B:
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| Gallatin County, Illinois Wednesday, 20 September 1865 B-317, #67 |
Labels:
FamilySearch,
Gallatin Co.,
Illinois,
Indexes,
Probate,
Rice Family
26 February 2021
Will Of William Rice
02 July 2020
Helen Davis Not Helen David Married George Beach
The book, Families of Early Milford, Connecticut, stated that George Landa Beach married Helen David.
The woman identified as Helen David was actually Helen Davis and was part of the family featured in the History of the Town of Rockingham, Vermont:...:
Helen's sister, Mary Jane Davis, married Arthur Lemuel Rice. The Rices were the ancestors of my double cousin, Connie Brinley Butterfield. Connie's Davis lineage extended to Walter Powers/Trial Shepard.
Also see Davis Family From A Cousin's Ancestry blog post
18 November 2018
John E. C. Rice's Probate
Tennessee Probate Court Books...Hamilton Wills...Vol. 01:
Rice Will [Image 35]
18 November 1867
Hamilton County, Tennessee
John E.C. Rice
Will
Mother Sarah E. Rice
Census 1860
14th District, Hamilton, Tennessee
Wm J Rice M 27 Tennessee
John E Rice M 18 Tennessee
Sarah Rice F 53 Tennessee
Labels:
FamilySearch,
Hamilton Co.,
Probate,
Rice Family,
Tennessee
19 September 2017
Davis Family From A Cousin's Ancestry
Descendants of Walter Powers & Trial Shepherd included my double cousin (on the Rice and Johnson lines), the late Constance Brinley Butterfield* (the Davis portion of her lineage shown below - links may differ from the original post). Walter and Trial are NOT my Powers ancestors.
*Constance Beverly Brinly, daughter of
Lola Dee Rice & Charles T. Brinly, daughter of
Charles Logan Rice & Mary Josephine Johnson, son of
Mary Jane Davis & Arthur Lemuel Rice, daughter of
James Davis & Amanda Grimes, son of
Lydia Harwood & Nathaniel Davis...
The Davis line taken from the History of the Town of Rockingham, Vermont:... by Lyman Simpson Hayes:
James and Amanda (Grimes) Davis in the 1850 Census:
Rockingham, Windham, Vermont
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Amanda Davis F 46
Betsey B Parker F 19
Mary J Davis F 17
Fanny F Davis F 14
Melinda C Davis F 10
Helen J Davis F 7
Name: Mrs Amanda G. Davis
Event Type: Burial
Event Date: 1863
Event Place: Calhoun, McMinn, Tennessee
Photograph Included: Yes
Birth Date: 16 Jan 1804
Death Date: 17 Apr 1863
Affiliate Record Identifier: 7661033
Cemetery: Calhoun Community Cemetery
Labels:
Davis Family,
FamilySearch,
FindAGrave,
Johnson Family,
Powers Family,
Rice Family,
Vermont
25 March 2017
James Dudley Johnson
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| J.D. Johnson (My apologies to whomever sent this to me; I've lost track of the source) |
Ahnentafel #14
Grandma Katie's father, James Dudley Johnson was born July 14, 1862, in Harrisburg, Illinois. He died in Trumann, Poinsett, Arkansas, on August 9, 1932.
State Census: 1865
James (Sr.) is enumerated by name. There are 2 boys and 1 girl ages 10 and under and 1 male and 1 female between the ages of 20 and 30. James Dudley Johnson would have been one of the boys under the age of 10.
The first Federal census in which James appears. He is enumerated with his parents, James and Nancy A., siblings George W., Elvira E., Josephine and William L. They are in Township 9, Range 7, Saline County, Illinois.
Census: 1880
James was living in Saline County, Illinois, with his parents, James and Nancy Johnson, as well as siblings George W., Elvira E., Josephine, William L., and Jacob G. Johnson.
James Dudley Johnson and Katie Rice were married September 28, 1887.
Census: 1900
James D. Johnson was living with his wife, Kate E., and children Pearl, James E., Mable, Evert, and Blanch, in Cottage Grove Township, Saline County, Illinois.
Census: 1910
James was a widower living with his children Mable, Evert, Blanch, George, Marie and Katie in Harrisburg, Illinois. Two year old Charles was living with them and enumerated as a son; however, I believe he may have been Charles Mason, son of Pearl (Johnson) Mason Logan. Baby daughter Ruth was not living with James and the other children.
Information from Katie Rice's niece:
"Kate had married James Johnson and the family called him Keith or Keet. Kate died after childbirth with Ruth. Mom (Ruby)...said they lived about 3 miles from them down the railroad tracks. They older boys, Evert and Jim, stayed at mom's a lot after Kate died. The older girls, who were in their teens, tried to keep the home together but couldn't cope with a newborn and Katie who was not three yet."
Census: 1920
Living with James was his daughter Marie, age 16; they were enumerated as Johnston, rather than Johnson. He was widowed and living in Poinsett County, Arkansas.
Census: 1930
James D. Johnson was living with his son Everett and Everett's family in Poinsett County, Arkansas. [Listed as "Divorced"]
James Dudley Johnson's 1932 Death record.
Memorial at FindAGrave:
Name James Dudley Johnson
Event Place Jonesboro, Craighead, Arkansas
Birth Date 14 Jul 1862
Death Date 09 Aug 1932
Affiliate Record Identifier 25954557
Cemetery Mount Pisgah Cemetery
Labels:
Arkansas,
Census,
FindAGrave,
Illinois,
Johnson Family,
Rice Family
16 December 2016
South Carolina Civil War POW Camp
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| Source |
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| Present Day Location Where Columbia, SC, POW Camp Stood |
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| Near The Former POW Camp |
My ancestor, Captain James A. Rice, was held at the POW camp.
14 September 2015
Elizabeth Colville Black Newell
My [presumed] lineage from Elizabeth:
Christian Black m. Christopher Acklin
Elizabeth Acklin m. William Hinds
Ann Hinds m. Ransom S. Rice
James A. Rice m. Nancy Patillo
Katie Rice m. James Johnson
Katie Johnson m. James H. Garrett
J. Garrett m. Richard N. Powers
Labels:
Acklin,
Black Family,
Garrett Family,
Hinds,
Johnson Family,
Patillo Family,
Powers Family,
Rice Family
17 July 2015
Henry Tarrant's Revolutionary War File
State of Tennessee
Greene County
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| Source - Fold3 |
...David Rice, a resident of this county....has been acquainted with Henry Tarrant....
Tarrant Bible records here at Fold3.
Labels:
Fold3,
Pensions,
Revolutionary War,
Rice Family,
Tennessee,
Virginia
30 April 2015
Elizabeth Rice McCord
From Obituaries In Early Tennessee Newspapers 1794-1851
McCord, Mrs. Elizabeth, wife of William of Illinois and daughter of David Rice of Greenville, Tennessee, d. ...of Paris, Edgar Co., Illinois, aged 26 yrs and 7 mos. The Politician and Weekly Nashville Whig (Fri July 21, 1847) and also in the Christian Record, June 26, 1847...
See Memorial at FindAGrave.
A brief biography of William McCord:
William McCord, farmer and dairyman; P. O. Paris; is a native of Tennessee; was born in Greene Co., May 26, 1819... . He has twice married; first to Miss Elizabeth Rice, of his native county, on Feb. 17, 1846; she died April 30, 1847... .
Note: No known relationship to our Rice family.
Labels:
FindAGrave,
Illinois,
Newspapers,
Obituaries,
Rice Family,
Tennessee
07 February 2014
Grandma Katie's Ancestors And DNA
Based upon DNA submitted by my brother at Family Tree DNA and a fortunate match with Grandma Katie's nephew's daughter (through Pearl Johnson, Grandma Katie's sister, and Robert Logan, Pearl's son), I was able to select persons who matched both my brother and Pearl's granddaughter, and make the assumption that those persons had a mutual ancestor(s) somewhere in Grandma Katie's family tree (as opposed to the Powers (paternal) tree or the Garrett (my maternal grandfather's) family tree).
ANCESTORS OF KATHERINE I. (JOHNSON) GARRETT DANIEL
Katherine Irene Johnson, daughter of
James Dudley Johnson and Katie Rice
Katherine Irene Johnson, granddaughter of
James Johnson and Nancy Graves
James A. Rice and Nancy Jane Patillo
Katherine Irene Johnson, great granddaughter of
Felix Grundy Patillo and Eleanor Ellen Roark
Ransom Scroggins Rice and Ann Hinds
Jacob? Graves and Nancy? (LNU)
John Johnson and Mary Greer
Katherine Irene Johnson, great great granddaughter of
John S. Patillo and Mary Trousdale and
Michael Roark and Nancy Evans
John S. Patillo and Mary Trousdale and
Michael Roark and Nancy Evans
William Hinds and Elizabeth Acklin
Asa/Asel Greer and Rebecca Neighbors
Katherine Irene Johnson, great great great-granddaughter of
James Patillo and Mary Samuels (or Samwell)
Alexander Trousdale and Mary Ann (Webb?)
William Roark and Elizabeth (LNU)
David Evans and Alice (Alsey) Anderson
Alexander Trousdale and Mary Ann (Webb?)
William Roark and Elizabeth (LNU)
David Evans and Alice (Alsey) Anderson
Aquilla Greer and Elizabeth Bandy
Francis Neighbors and ?
Katherine Irene Johnson, great great great-great grandaughter of
John Trousdale and ?
George Webb? and Margaret Adcock?
John Anderson and Arabella (LNU)
Katherine Irene Johnson, great great great-great grandaughter of
John Trousdale and ?
George Webb? and Margaret Adcock?
John Anderson and Arabella (LNU)
Richard Bandy and ?
Labels:
Acklin,
Bandy Family,
Day Family,
DNA,
Evans Family,
Graves Family,
Greer,
Greer Family,
Hinds,
Johnson Family,
Lowe Family,
Neighbors Family,
Patillo Family,
Rice Family,
Roark,
Trousdale Family
Nancy Patillo's Chart
Nancy Jane Patillo marred James A. Rice. They were the grandparents of my grandmother, Katherine Irene (Johnson) Garrett Daniel.
Nancy Jane Patillo, daughter of
Felix Grundy Patillo and Eleanor Ellen Roark
Nancy Jane Patillo, granddaughter of
John S. Patillo and Mary Trousdale and
Michael Roark and Nancy Evans
Nancy Jane Patillo, great-granddaughter of
James Patillo and Mary Samuels (or Samwell)
Alexander Trousdale and Mary Ann (Webb?)
William Roark and Elizabeth (LNU)
David Evans and Alice (Alsey) Anderson
Nancy Jane Patillo, great-great grandaughter of
John Trousdale and ?
George Webb? and Margaret Adcock?
John Anderson and Arabella (LNU)
Labels:
Anderson Family,
Evans Family,
Johnson Family,
Patillo Family,
Rice Family,
Roark,
Trousdale Family
28 December 2013
James H. Rice's Probate File
Illinois, Probate Records, 1819-1970, White County:
White Co., IL
Probate journal v. A 1820-1849
28 December 1846
James H. Rice's estate
Anna Rice, Admin., by H. F. Rice, her agent
Abel Rice [mentioned in the page below]
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| Source |
More about the White County Rice family here.
Labels:
FamilySearch,
Illinois,
IRAD,
Probate,
Rice Family,
White Co.
20 September 2013
The 73rd Illinois At Chickamauga
The National Park Service at Chickamauga Battlefield provided the movements of Captain James A. Rice's 73rd IL (who was captured September 20th) during the Battle of Chickamauga:
LAIBOLDT'S BRIGADELaiboldt's Brigade followed Bradley's from Lee and Gordon's Mills, and formed line on this ground about 5:00 as a support to Bradley. The latter Brigade, after severe fighting, repulsed the enemy, and Laiboldt's troops were not brought into action. The brigade bivouacked on this ground until near daybreak when it was withdrawn with the rest of its division to the high ground next west of Widow Glenn's.
SHERIDAN'S DIVISION - MCCOOK'S CORPS
Col. Bernard Laiboldt
September 19, 1863, 5:00 P.M. 1st Position
44th ILLINOIS - Col. Wallace W. Barrett
73rd ILLLINOIS - Col. James F. Jaquess
2nd MISSOURI - Maj. Arnold Beck
15th MISSOURI - Col. Joseph Conrad
BATTERY G, 1ST MISSOURI LIGHT ARTILLERY - Lieut. Gustavus Schueler
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| Site Of Widow Glenn's House Burned During The Battle |
LAIBOLDT'S BRIGADE
SHERIDAN'S DIVISION - MCCOOK'S CORPS
Col. Bernard Laiboldt
September 20, 1863, Morning, 1st Position
44th ILLINOIS - Col. Wallace W. Barrett
73rd ILLLINOIS - Col. James F. Jaquess
2nd MISSOURI - Maj. Arnold Beck
15th MISSOURI - Col. Joseph Conrad
BATTERY G, 1ST MISSOURI LIGHT ARTILLERY - Lieut. Gustavus Schueler
Before daylight of Sept. 20th this brigade was brought from its bivouac at Viniard's to this position where it held the right of Sheridan's Division with Lytle's Brigade on its left, Bradley's (Walworth's) being in reserve. At 11 o'clock the latter brigade relieved Laiboldt's which was sent to the left under instructions to occupy ground which had been held by Gen. Negley. Upon reaching the Dyer Fields it took position on the ridge west of the Tan Yard, Carlin's Brigade of Davis' Division having reached the ground which Laiboldt was ordered to cover.
LAIBOLDT'S BRIGADE
SHERIDAN'S DIVISION - MCCOOK'S CORPS
Col. Bernard Laiboldt
September 20, 1863, 11 A. M.
44th ILLINOIS - Col. Wallace W. Barrett
73rd ILLLINOIS - Col. James F. Jaquess
2nd MISSOURI - Maj. Arnold Beck
15th MISSOURI - Col. Joseph Conrad
BATTERY G, 1ST MISSOURI LIGHT ARTILLERY - Lieut. Gustavus Schueler
About 11 A. M. the brigade formed on the ridge west of this position in column of regiments. When Davis' line on the Brotherton place was attacked, Laiboldt's Brigade was ordered to charge and pressed forward to the ground in front of this line, while part of the ridge it first held was occupied by Lytle's Brigade of Sheridan's Division. Carlin's Brigade was forced back over Laiboldt's and both over Lytle's, and all back nearly to Crawfish Springs Road. The line then rallied, regained the ridge, and forced the enemy toward the foot of it. The Union line was again driven back over the high ground west of the Crawfish Springs Road and off the field. Casualties Sept. 19th and 20th: Killed, 38; Wounded, 243; Missing, 108; Total, 389.
LAIBOLDT'S BRIGADE
SHERIDAN'S DIVISION - MCCOOK'S CORPS
Col. Bernard Laiboldt
September 20, 1863, Noon
44th ILLINOIS - Col. Wallace W. Barrett
73rd ILLLINOIS - Col. James F. Jaquess
2nd MISSOURI - Maj. Arnold Beck
15th MISSOURI - Col. Joseph Conrad
BATTERY G, 1ST MISSOURI LIGHT ARTILLERY - Lieut. Gustavus Schueler
At 11 A. M. Sept. 20, this brigade held the right of Sheridan's Division. Its position was just south of Widow Glenn's. When Longstreet's troops broke through the Union center at the Brotherton House, Sheridan's Division was moved rapidly to the left to support Davis' Division in an assault to restore the line. Liaboldt's Brigade, accompanied by Battery C, 1st Illinois, Capt. M. H. Prescott, of Walworth's Brigade, came into position on the slope, the battery to the left and rear of the infantry which was formed on the slope in column of regiments. Davis' Division was then being forced to the rear in confusion by an attack on its front and left; Laiboldt's Brigade charged down the slope and into the edge of the woods in its front, when it, in turn, being forced back retreated hastily to the hills west of this position whence it continued to McFarland's Gap. Prescott's Battery fired only 8 or 10 rounds from this position, being prevented by retreating men in its front. In retreating it lost three guns, the horses being shot down. Casualties: Killed, 38; Wounded, 243; Missing, 108; Total, 389.
05 August 2013
Franklin Co., TN, Wiki And Notes
Franklin County, Tennessee, Wiki here.
In a related topic, here's some notes taken while visiting the library in Franklin County and perusing their vertical files.
Note Washington, Mont & Kentucky counties formed Dec 6, 1776 from Fincastle Co., KY
Nathaniel ..Mildred Barnes' ancestry
Greenville Co., SC 22 Nov 1816 d. Madison Co., AL 1 March 1879
Wife Elizabeth Acklin b. AL m. 22 Nov 1844 in Franklin Co., TN; d. 19 May 1905
Barnes' daughter in Greenville - Mrs. James H. Poole (Joyce)
1st Acklin File
Oct 12, 1926 to Col. Jas/Jos Hayes Acklin
Nashville
Receipt of a card from your daughter, Mrs. Robert E. Landis (Pauline Acklin Landis) of Detroit....
from Frederick Adams Virkus, editor
Letterhead of Julia M. Barker
In a related topic, here's some notes taken while visiting the library in Franklin County and perusing their vertical files.
Winchester Cemetery (Old)
Acklen, Joseph b. 10-11-1835; d. 9-11-1902
Lucy, wife of Joseph Acklen 10-5-1844; d. 2-18-1908
Acklen, William Templeton b. 9-27-1881; d. 8-7-1902
Note Washington, Mont & Kentucky counties formed Dec 6, 1776 from Fincastle Co., KY
POWER File
Letter to Mr. Herman Powers (in Greenville? SC) - Winchester, TN 5 Feb 1981
Max Barnes & Wife, Mildred
William Power in Madison Co., AL, 1820-18??
Will 1 Nov 1851...children were William, Jonathan, James, Nathaniel & 5 girls
Nathaniel ..Mildred Barnes' ancestry
Greenville Co., SC 22 Nov 1816 d. Madison Co., AL 1 March 1879
Wife Elizabeth Acklin b. AL m. 22 Nov 1844 in Franklin Co., TN; d. 19 May 1905
Barnes' daughter in Greenville - Mrs. James H. Poole (Joyce)
Graves of Jos Acklen & wife Sarah, parents of Elizabeth
in same cemetery as Nathaniel T. & Elizabeth Acklin Power
"Steele Cemetery"
1st Acklin File
Oct 12, 1926 to Col. Jas/Jos Hayes Acklin
Nashville
Receipt of a card from your daughter, Mrs. Robert E. Landis (Pauline Acklin Landis) of Detroit....
from Frederick Adams Virkus, editor
Letterhead of Julia M. Barker
GROENDYKE Family File
Family pedigree of Mary Helen Davis Groendyke
William Henry Byrom to Elizabeth Lasiter
Greene H. Byrum 1832 - 5 Oct 1897, Saline Co.
m.
M. Adaline Rice
10 Oct 1825 - 25 Feb 1891 Saline Co., IL
Thomas Franklin Byrom
b. 30 Aug 1856 Estill Springs
m. 16 Oct 1878
d. 1942 Jonesboro, Arkansas
m. Sarah E. Thomas
b. Saline Co.
d. 9 May 1928
Greenway, AR
Labels:
Acklin,
Arkansas,
Franklin Co.,
Illinois,
Michigan,
Research,
Resources,
Rice Family,
Saline Co.,
Tennessee
29 July 2013
Illinois Pioneer William Roark
From the Illinois Archives: The "Illinois State Genealogical Society" has a "Prairie Pioneer Certificate" on file for William Roark; the Pioneer Ancestor Application was completed by (Descendant) Karen Elder. The salient points from William Roark's file:
William Roark settled in Gallatin County, Illinois circa 1810
William Roark and his son Michael Roark [both ancestors of mine, too] purchased land together from the Shawneetown Land Distribution as early as 1810
William made a sworn affidavit while living in Michael's home
In the 1840 United States Census, Gallatin County, Illinois, William Roark is enumerated as a 78 year old military pensioner living with Michael Roark
Elizabeth [Eleanor] Roark [also my ancestor], Michael Roark's daughter, married Felix G. Patillo (Saline County, Illinois, records) Saline County, Illinois records name Elizabeth as Felix Patillo's widow, and William Roark as Elizabeth's brother
Elizabeth (Roark) Patillo's daughter, Nancy Jane Patillo, married James A. Rice
Labels:
Archives,
Census,
Gallatin Co.,
Illinois,
Patillo Family,
Rice Family,
Roark,
Societies
01 April 2013
Research Using Old Envelopes And Postcards
Mr. Miller sent a nice e-mail to me after finding the Saulpaw surname on my Rootsweb database. It basically stated that he "...recently found a photo of an old envelope that Maxwell, Saulpaw & Company of Nashville, Tennessee sent in 1861." He wasn't related, but had "a photo of the envelope because of an interest in using old envelopes and postcards in genealogical research." His e-mail led me to the very interesting Philatelic Genealogy website where the envelope could be viewed.
Mr. Miller explained how to find the specific envelope referenced in his e-mail:To see the envelope -- (from the Main Menu, select Search Database, enter Saulpaw, press Enter on your keyboard, and click on Moses).
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| Source |
Note: Mr. Miller granted permission to use the above image if accompanied by the information below:
This photograph is copyright Schuyler Rumsey Philatelic Auctions (http://www.rumseyauctions.com/) and appears in the auction catalog for Sale 37, Lot 1636, as well as on Philgen.org (http://philgen.org; search on Saulpaw). Reprinting, distributing, or copying this photograph in any form requires written consent from Schuyler Rumsey Philatelic Auctions.
Back to the Saulpaws: Emeline Davis married George Saulpaw. Emeline's sister, Mary Jane Davis, married Arthur Lemuel Rice (brother of my ancestor, James A. Rice). Mary Jane and Arthur were the ancestors of my double cousin (and the late, great researcher, Connie Brinley Butterfield). And that's why the Saulpaws were in my Rootsweb database.
04 November 2012
Rice Cemetery
Guess where some of my Rices are buried -- Rice Cemetery in Cottage Township, Saline County, Illinois!
Captain James A. Rice is found at FindAGrave as being buried in Rice Cemetery. His grave is there; we visited this cemetery several years ago. [Note: His mother is listed as Elizabeth Lee on the record; I believe his mother was Ann (Hinds) Rice, daughter of William Hinds and Elizabeth Acklin].
Rice Cemetery, NE 1/4 NW 1/4, Section 7, T 9 S R 7 E. Take US Route 45 North from Harrisburg. Turn east on gravel road just north of the first bridge and before reaching Muddy Road go east about 1 3/4 miles. The cemetery is located on the north side of the road on the side of a fairly large hill and covers about two acres.
Labels:
Acklin,
cemeteries,
FindAGrave,
Hinds,
Illinois,
Rice Family,
Saline Co.
19 October 2012
Who Was David Rice?
Was David Rice related to my ancestor, Ransom Scroggins Rice? Land in Franklin County, Tennessee, was transferred to Ransom Rice by David Rice in open Court May term 1820. That suggested a relationship.
This message mentions a Jackson County, Georgia, 1799 Tax List and Benjamin Rice, David Rice and Chatham (Chattin Doggett) Scroggin. Ransom Scroggins Rice was said to have been born in Georgia. Was it Jackson County, Georgia?
A GenForum message stated that Benjamin Rice was Ransom Scroggins Rice's father. If this tree (the William Pendley Rice and Mary Ann Gooch tree) is correct, Ransom S. Rice's uncle is David Rice. Another version of the Rice/Gooch tree.
Now I have some names and a place (Jackson Co., GA) to work with. Is David Rice Ransom S. Rice's uncle? It's possible.
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